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	<title>Comments on: Germans hate customer service</title>
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	<description>German Quirks from an American Perspective</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 08:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-22815</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been living over here for nigh 20 years, and customer service is a foreign concept. I've been to no other country where you have to excuse yourself for wanting to spend your money there!

You run to the bakery at 5 minutes to 6 p.m., which is still closing time in small towns throughout Germany, because you have run out of bread. The saleswoman gives you a dirty look, utters a groan of exasperation, then tells you that it is after closing time, even though it is not!

Or, I once wanted a steak really badly, so I went to a restaurant in Nuremberg which had been recommended to me by a German friend. It was 5:30 p.m. when we arrived, the place was empty. I asked the waitress where we could sit, but she answered that we could only have something to eat if we promised to be done by 7.

And, no, Germans have no concept of standing in line and waiting their turn. It is a free for all at the bakery or the butcher shop. Make sure you scan the crowd to get a head count of how many were there before you. Count how many get served, while nonchalantly pushing your way forward to the counter. When your number is up (which it is up to you to determine), and the clerk asks who's next, just start blurting out your order more loudly than the others who have come in after you. You have to be assertive, or you may get stuck waiting at the counter all day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been living over here for nigh 20 years, and customer service is a foreign concept. I&#8217;ve been to no other country where you have to excuse yourself for wanting to spend your money there!</p>
<p>You run to the bakery at 5 minutes to 6 p.m., which is still closing time in small towns throughout Germany, because you have run out of bread. The saleswoman gives you a dirty look, utters a groan of exasperation, then tells you that it is after closing time, even though it is not!</p>
<p>Or, I once wanted a steak really badly, so I went to a restaurant in Nuremberg which had been recommended to me by a German friend. It was 5:30 p.m. when we arrived, the place was empty. I asked the waitress where we could sit, but she answered that we could only have something to eat if we promised to be done by 7.</p>
<p>And, no, Germans have no concept of standing in line and waiting their turn. It is a free for all at the bakery or the butcher shop. Make sure you scan the crowd to get a head count of how many were there before you. Count how many get served, while nonchalantly pushing your way forward to the counter. When your number is up (which it is up to you to determine), and the clerk asks who&#8217;s next, just start blurting out your order more loudly than the others who have come in after you. You have to be assertive, or you may get stuck waiting at the counter all day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-10615</link>
		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-10615</guid>
		<description>the world dislike america. we dont want your [crap] and waste

&lt;strong&gt;Editor's note:&lt;/strong&gt; ... and we don't want your naughty language</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the world dislike america. we dont want your [crap] and waste</p>
<p><strong>Editor&#8217;s note:</strong> &#8230; and we don&#8217;t want your naughty language</p>
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		<title>By: Kompass</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-8473</link>
		<dc:creator>Kompass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-8473</guid>
		<description>German only, Volker Pispers, Dienstleistung (customer service):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im3dJp30-b8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>German only, Volker Pispers, Dienstleistung (customer service):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im3dJp30-b8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im3dJp30-b8</a></p>
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		<title>By: Germerman</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-6943</link>
		<dc:creator>Germerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-6943</guid>
		<description>Germany is truly SERVICE HELL!

I´ve had a professor of economics who wanted to buy a real expensive new Mercedes but the dealer used all of his talent that he dont have too give away HIS crown of cars. Frustratet he owned a Lexus and thought why he worked so hard to save his money for that graet day. After this expericen he really seemd unmotivatet in his Job. 

Strange? But that´s how it´s written!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Germany is truly SERVICE HELL!</p>
<p>I´ve had a professor of economics who wanted to buy a real expensive new Mercedes but the dealer used all of his talent that he dont have too give away HIS crown of cars. Frustratet he owned a Lexus and thought why he worked so hard to save his money for that graet day. After this expericen he really seemd unmotivatet in his Job. </p>
<p>Strange? But that´s how it´s written!</p>
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		<title>By: Filky</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-5228</link>
		<dc:creator>Filky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-5228</guid>
		<description>But even these have nothing on KabelBW.  When I first came here these guys asked me what kind of digital receiver I owned so they could send me an appropriate card.  Then, when it didn't work they tried to sell me a new receiver.  I didn't want a new receiver so they tried to take me to court for not paying for the lousy service they couldn't deliver in the first place.
If it was just lousy customer service I could live with it, but they have moved onto something far more sinister than keeping you on the line to earn from the call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But even these have nothing on KabelBW.  When I first came here these guys asked me what kind of digital receiver I owned so they could send me an appropriate card.  Then, when it didn&#8217;t work they tried to sell me a new receiver.  I didn&#8217;t want a new receiver so they tried to take me to court for not paying for the lousy service they couldn&#8217;t deliver in the first place.<br />
If it was just lousy customer service I could live with it, but they have moved onto something far more sinister than keeping you on the line to earn from the call.</p>
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		<title>By: michael_de</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-4929</link>
		<dc:creator>michael_de</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-4929</guid>
		<description>Moin

Germans do not go to church (if I was a child I considered going to church oldfashioned, modern people do not go to church)

Germans pray to the god of efficiency, so they have to be honest, it saves time, it avoids misunderstandings.

Customer service is a luxury, it takes time, it decreases profit.

Having no customers decreases profit too.

This problem seems to be unsolvable.

German companys like the money but they do not like their customers. Unsolvable too.

If you have a product like a Miele washing machine then you do not need any customer service, such a product hardly fails.

Internet access or a telephone is much more complicated and therefore it could fail easier.

The german mind is good in inventing, building and selling a piece of hardware, the success is directly measurable.

If you put a girl on a telephone line to speak to customers in a polite and friendly way then the success is not directly measurable.

Germans do not like that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moin</p>
<p>Germans do not go to church (if I was a child I considered going to church oldfashioned, modern people do not go to church)</p>
<p>Germans pray to the god of efficiency, so they have to be honest, it saves time, it avoids misunderstandings.</p>
<p>Customer service is a luxury, it takes time, it decreases profit.</p>
<p>Having no customers decreases profit too.</p>
<p>This problem seems to be unsolvable.</p>
<p>German companys like the money but they do not like their customers. Unsolvable too.</p>
<p>If you have a product like a Miele washing machine then you do not need any customer service, such a product hardly fails.</p>
<p>Internet access or a telephone is much more complicated and therefore it could fail easier.</p>
<p>The german mind is good in inventing, building and selling a piece of hardware, the success is directly measurable.</p>
<p>If you put a girl on a telephone line to speak to customers in a polite and friendly way then the success is not directly measurable.</p>
<p>Germans do not like that.</p>
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		<title>By: SFGerman</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-4925</link>
		<dc:creator>SFGerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-4925</guid>
		<description>I can see how it may appear like Germans don't like customer service. But consider this: If you grew up and lived you whole life there, how would you know that customer service even existed? I only learned about it after I moved to the US. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see how it may appear like Germans don&#8217;t like customer service. But consider this: If you grew up and lived you whole life there, how would you know that customer service even existed? I only learned about it after I moved to the US. <img src='http://nothingforungood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-4915</link>
		<dc:creator>Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-4915</guid>
		<description>No, Germans don't hate customer service - they just don't have alternatives to dealing with companies showing the behaviour mentioned above ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Germans don&#8217;t hate customer service - they just don&#8217;t have alternatives to dealing with companies showing the behaviour mentioned above <img src='http://nothingforungood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: titrat</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-4215</link>
		<dc:creator>titrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-4215</guid>
		<description>Not only we hate the "customer service" (better name here would be "customer defence"), but the customer service personnel hates the customer, too.
They hide, if they can, they flee if they see a customer in the far.
If you  catched one, they ignore you, if you're lucky, otherwise they insult you.
Reason is our near-socialistic system, where you not hire a worker, but have to adopt him, with no real chance of firing jerks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only we hate the &#8220;customer service&#8221; (better name here would be &#8220;customer defence&#8221;), but the customer service personnel hates the customer, too.<br />
They hide, if they can, they flee if they see a customer in the far.<br />
If you  catched one, they ignore you, if you&#8217;re lucky, otherwise they insult you.<br />
Reason is our near-socialistic system, where you not hire a worker, but have to adopt him, with no real chance of firing jerks.</p>
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		<title>By: Till</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-4067</link>
		<dc:creator>Till</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/08/17/germans-hate-customer-service/#comment-4067</guid>
		<description>Definitely true about the lack of customer service in Germany, especially Telekom. By the way, T-Mobile in the US is owned by them and their service is great. But T-Kom in Germany is truly kafkaesque.

As far as being penny pincher is concerned, I think this is true to a certain extent. But behind this is a mentality of efficiency and optimization. It is just not necessary to have someone pack your bags in the supermarket if you can do it yourself while your items get pushed over the laser by the cashier. I get annoyed when I see here how people just stand there and like being served instead of taking things into their own hands. This is noticeably the case for lower class/ lower income folks.

The interesting thing here is the discrepancy between the attitudes. Americans often balk at the German/European welfare system and say we are assisted and we should take charge of our own well-being. Whereas Europeans shake their head in disbelief when they see a social system from the 19th century still being in place in the US today, but where assistance in daily life tasks (e.g. ordering phone service or packing bags) is taken for granted and most of these tasks are streamlined by specialists to be really idiot proof.

There is a much bigger cultural divide than what I believed when I came here in 2001.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely true about the lack of customer service in Germany, especially Telekom. By the way, T-Mobile in the US is owned by them and their service is great. But T-Kom in Germany is truly kafkaesque.</p>
<p>As far as being penny pincher is concerned, I think this is true to a certain extent. But behind this is a mentality of efficiency and optimization. It is just not necessary to have someone pack your bags in the supermarket if you can do it yourself while your items get pushed over the laser by the cashier. I get annoyed when I see here how people just stand there and like being served instead of taking things into their own hands. This is noticeably the case for lower class/ lower income folks.</p>
<p>The interesting thing here is the discrepancy between the attitudes. Americans often balk at the German/European welfare system and say we are assisted and we should take charge of our own well-being. Whereas Europeans shake their head in disbelief when they see a social system from the 19th century still being in place in the US today, but where assistance in daily life tasks (e.g. ordering phone service or packing bags) is taken for granted and most of these tasks are streamlined by specialists to be really idiot proof.</p>
<p>There is a much bigger cultural divide than what I believed when I came here in 2001.</p>
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