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	<title>Comments on: Mixed messages on the motorway</title>
	<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/</link>
	<description>German Quirks from an American Perspective</description>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-29969</link>
		<dc:creator>Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 20:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote Smee:
I really hate those billboard signs! What happened to the good old “Freie Fahrt für freie Bürger”?

There's the thing: we don't like how "Freie Bürger" kill themselves and others by irresponsible speeding, do we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote Smee:<br />
I really hate those billboard signs! What happened to the good old “Freie Fahrt für freie Bürger”?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s the thing: we don&#8217;t like how &#8220;Freie Bürger&#8221; kill themselves and others by irresponsible speeding, do we?</p>
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		<title>By: iDoc</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-22406</link>
		<dc:creator>iDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-22406</guid>
		<description>just try to exchange the buzz words and arguments in any "Freie Fahrt für Freie Bürger" discussion in Germany by any 2nd Amendment discussion over in the States. Got the picture? 8D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just try to exchange the buzz words and arguments in any &#8220;Freie Fahrt für Freie Bürger&#8221; discussion in Germany by any 2nd Amendment discussion over in the States. Got the picture? 8D</p>
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		<title>By: Florian</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-13682</link>
		<dc:creator>Florian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-13682</guid>
		<description>50% of the Autobahn have a speed limit :(
The normal Richtgeschwindigkeit (the sqared blue sign) is 130 km/h (80,7 mph).
If there is an accident, and you are faster than these 130 km/h and it wouldn't have happend if you were slower you ALONE are the culprit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50% of the Autobahn have a speed limit <img src='http://nothingforungood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
The normal Richtgeschwindigkeit (the sqared blue sign) is 130 km/h (80,7 mph).<br />
If there is an accident, and you are faster than these 130 km/h and it wouldn&#8217;t have happend if you were slower you ALONE are the culprit!</p>
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		<title>By: Nico</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-13666</link>
		<dc:creator>Nico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-13666</guid>
		<description>The purpose of the comment is twofold:
First I want to give a little update that the second (the blue) sign is about to be abandoned in July 2009 ... 
Second I wanted to add that the sign had a relevance for your insurance ... crashing at a speed higher than the recommended could give you trouble with your insurance company ... because you might have been able to prevent the crash driving at the recommended velocity ... that is what I call german style ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of the comment is twofold:<br />
First I want to give a little update that the second (the blue) sign is about to be abandoned in July 2009 &#8230;<br />
Second I wanted to add that the sign had a relevance for your insurance &#8230; crashing at a speed higher than the recommended could give you trouble with your insurance company &#8230; because you might have been able to prevent the crash driving at the recommended velocity &#8230; that is what I call german style &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Smee</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-5937</link>
		<dc:creator>Smee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-5937</guid>
		<description>I really hate those billboard signs! What happened to the good old "Freie Fahrt für freie Bürger"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hate those billboard signs! What happened to the good old &#8220;Freie Fahrt für freie Bürger&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan W.</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-5770</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-5770</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;* plastic and packaging
* paper
* white glass
* colored glass
* metal
* organic waste
* waste which does not fit in any of the other categories&lt;/i&gt;

Well, apart from the fact that the "Duales System Deutschland GmbH" aka "Der Grüne Punkt" makes us put metal and plastic / packaging into the same category, it's the same in Germany.

But with the "Dosenpfand", which actually means most beverage containers (plastic bottles, cans etc.) have to be returned to the shop to get your deposit back, the colored / white glass category has been reduced to almost only wine bottles and pickle / jam jars...

Before that, deposit was only for glass and plastic pottles that are cleaned and reused by the industry instead of being recycled. 

Nowadays people in Germany not only take the usual boxes of beer, water and soft drink bottles back to the supermarked / beverage store, they also carry huge bags of empty plastic bottles and beverage cans to the supermarked nowadays to get their deposit back...

Strangely, the aimed effect to promote reusable glass bottles seems to have gone in the opposite direction. Instead now there are more and more beverages, formerly sold in deposit free "one-way-bottles" (literal translation) made of glass, available in plastic bottles or beverage cans &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt;. Ok, they're returned and recycled as I said above, but glass recycling is still better than aluminum/aluminium or plastic recycling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>* plastic and packaging<br />
* paper<br />
* white glass<br />
* colored glass<br />
* metal<br />
* organic waste<br />
* waste which does not fit in any of the other categories</i></p>
<p>Well, apart from the fact that the &#8220;Duales System Deutschland GmbH&#8221; aka &#8220;Der Grüne Punkt&#8221; makes us put metal and plastic / packaging into the same category, it&#8217;s the same in Germany.</p>
<p>But with the &#8220;Dosenpfand&#8221;, which actually means most beverage containers (plastic bottles, cans etc.) have to be returned to the shop to get your deposit back, the colored / white glass category has been reduced to almost only wine bottles and pickle / jam jars&#8230;</p>
<p>Before that, deposit was only for glass and plastic pottles that are cleaned and reused by the industry instead of being recycled. </p>
<p>Nowadays people in Germany not only take the usual boxes of beer, water and soft drink bottles back to the supermarked / beverage store, they also carry huge bags of empty plastic bottles and beverage cans to the supermarked nowadays to get their deposit back&#8230;</p>
<p>Strangely, the aimed effect to promote reusable glass bottles seems to have gone in the opposite direction. Instead now there are more and more beverages, formerly sold in deposit free &#8220;one-way-bottles&#8221; (literal translation) made of glass, available in plastic bottles or beverage cans <i>only</i>. Ok, they&#8217;re returned and recycled as I said above, but glass recycling is still better than aluminum/aluminium or plastic recycling.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-5768</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-5768</guid>
		<description>Hah, in Austria we sort trash in 7 ways:
* plastic and packaging
* paper
* white glass
* colored glass
* metal
* organic waste
* waste which does not fit in any of the other categories

In return we are only allowed to drive 130 km/h maximum speed at our Autobahn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah, in Austria we sort trash in 7 ways:<br />
* plastic and packaging<br />
* paper<br />
* white glass<br />
* colored glass<br />
* metal<br />
* organic waste<br />
* waste which does not fit in any of the other categories</p>
<p>In return we are only allowed to drive 130 km/h maximum speed at our Autobahn.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-5764</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-5764</guid>
		<description>That's not true. I drove over 150km/h for a good 5 kilometres during my driver’s license checkride and did not fail!

#  flipflop Says:
May 9th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

You have also to be aware of this 130km/h suggestion when having the driver’s license checkride. Exceeding the suggested speed leads to a fail :) (In fact I don’t know anyone who had to use an Autobahn at the checkride)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not true. I drove over 150km/h for a good 5 kilometres during my driver’s license checkride and did not fail!</p>
<p>#  flipflop Says:<br />
May 9th, 2008 at 12:46 pm</p>
<p>You have also to be aware of this 130km/h suggestion when having the driver’s license checkride. Exceeding the suggested speed leads to a fail <img src='http://nothingforungood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> (In fact I don’t know anyone who had to use an Autobahn at the checkride)</p>
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		<title>By: Oderik</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-5741</link>
		<dc:creator>Oderik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-5741</guid>
		<description>I'm tired of reading all the other comments so I'm just adding my mustard without knowing if this is already said.

The suggested speed on the blue sign is a bit more obligatory than one may think. You may go faster than the suggested speed. But if you do, you may be accused for driving to fast if you get involved into an accident and you will be guilty for it at least partially. On the autobahn, the default suggested speed is 130km/h.

The uncool "Raser" is someone who goes as fast as he likes even if there is a speedlimit. Also he tailgates, flashes his lights and he doesn't use the blinker when changing the lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tired of reading all the other comments so I&#8217;m just adding my mustard without knowing if this is already said.</p>
<p>The suggested speed on the blue sign is a bit more obligatory than one may think. You may go faster than the suggested speed. But if you do, you may be accused for driving to fast if you get involved into an accident and you will be guilty for it at least partially. On the autobahn, the default suggested speed is 130km/h.</p>
<p>The uncool &#8220;Raser&#8221; is someone who goes as fast as he likes even if there is a speedlimit. Also he tailgates, flashes his lights and he doesn&#8217;t use the blinker when changing the lane.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr B.</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-5226</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/07/mixed-messages-on-the-motorway/#comment-5226</guid>
		<description>I have always maintained -- and shall continue on and on and on -- that the German as such is a creature full of conflict and agression.

Lacking the option of popping by the hardware store to get a rifle and a few rounds, the least he needs is a fast car with a full tank. Now, which lends itself better to the proceedings -- a busy or deserted motorway -- remains a matter of individual personality.

Mit freundlichen Gruessen
Herr B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always maintained &#8212; and shall continue on and on and on &#8212; that the German as such is a creature full of conflict and agression.</p>
<p>Lacking the option of popping by the hardware store to get a rifle and a few rounds, the least he needs is a fast car with a full tank. Now, which lends itself better to the proceedings &#8212; a busy or deserted motorway &#8212; remains a matter of individual personality.</p>
<p>Mit freundlichen Gruessen<br />
Herr B.</p>
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